1. J Clar on April 21, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    Eat at the bottom of the pyramid and do it right…whole grains and vegetables. I changed and did it. I went to Pritikin. Also cook your own food like Chris says.

  2. COB OB on April 21, 2021 at 4:58 pm

    So everyone who responded on Gary T.s side ALL THESE YEARS LATER . . I KNOW u see the truth of Christopher Gardner’s KNOWLEDGE and the hollow babbling of this Gary whoever

  3. SamSederIsAnIdiot on April 21, 2021 at 5:00 pm

    As we speak, Harvard School Of Public Health is reversing its position on saturated fat, and putting the spotlight on refined carbohydrates as the primary destroyer of health. Just read practically any recent interview with Dariush Mozaffarian. Taubes heralded a paradigm shift in nutrition.

  4. g r on April 21, 2021 at 5:01 pm

    obesity is a calorie energy surplus solved by eating less, but Gary’s right. too many simple carbs, among other things, can elevate insulin, which shunts sugar into the cells from the blood. that turns it into fat and also keeps the body from effecting lipolysis (converting fat to sugar for energy). this produces both hunger (more calories), and lethargy (low energy burning). still, if you fast intermittently and restrict calories, your human growth hormone will skyrocket, which is lypolytic, and ghrelin too, and insulin will drop. you will burn fat and don’t mind what they say about "starvation mode". that’s nonsense, but when you eat less, get your nutrients, in concentrated form, protein supplements and fruits and vegetables. also exercise, specifically resistance and intensity training. a thousand calorie deficit per day for a week is 2lbs per week loss, and think of the brain power increase! human growth hormone! deep changes. immune strengthening. too bad that carbs are a staple of vegetarians . I love steak but I don’t want to be cruel to animals, but honestly nutritionally, Taubes is right. no sense losing weight, or fat weight, without also gaining muscle. I also notice this veg guy is kind of goofy, effeminate. I should know, I was like that. I am happy with my current path in many ways. no more distance running, no more carb loading low protein diets, although I’d prefer to minimize animal product consumption. but testosterone and growth hormone, naturally. no more visceral fat. be awake and aware in your body and brain.. and belly

  5. Gerald Ford on April 21, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    this was so frustrating to watch ….

    1) obese people do eat more on average than lean people 


    2) gary taubes is of course insufferable and is wrong about calorie balance.  thermodynamics wins every time

    "A 2003 systematic review in JAMA showed that weight loss on low-carb diets was principally associated with decreased caloric intake and increased diet duration but not with reduced carbohydrate content."


    3) dr. gardner was too nice and should have interrupted taubes more to get equal talk time, and more importantly should have set him straight about calorie balance. 
    4) the moderator should have shut up taubes, he took at least 70-80% of the talk time despite being the most misinformed of the people on stage 

  6. 11- Alharbi on April 21, 2021 at 5:03 pm

    is there anyone saw what I saw from youglish ? ^-^

  7. Mark Smith on April 21, 2021 at 5:03 pm

    Does anyone else think Gary sounds like Jimmy Stewart?

  8. MJH H on April 21, 2021 at 5:04 pm

    Gary makes things so simple and believable. I like his passion and conviction he truly is trying to make a point about obesity.

  9. Jenny on April 21, 2021 at 5:07 pm

    Taubes never changes.  "Carbs spike insulin and make you fat."  When the topic of exercise comes up, Taubes gives his crusty old rant about livelong extreme marathon runners who wrecked their bodies and exercise made them hungry and fat.

  10. zartech on April 21, 2021 at 5:08 pm

    The reality is healthy food cost money. Grains are cheap because they are plentiful and subsidized. Either we change the supply supporting small more sustainable farms, or we continue to get Bill Gates style enormous mono-culture crops.

  11. jaafar ali on April 21, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    I understand that this isn’t exactly a well-known fact, because most people don’t follow health studies posted on the internet, but consuming meat/dairy IS causing disease. Please, research for yourself, google "Harvard Meat Study" and there will be a plethora of articles about heart disease and various cancers. Meat/dairy is loaded with cholesterol and the high-meat/high-dairy diet that the average person has today, IS killing them. Heart-disease, to be exact. Heart-disease kills more people than ANYTHING else in this world (followed up by cancer, which also has MANY studies linking it to meat/dairy-consumption), 17.5 million just last year. This has nothing to do with added growth hormones/GMOs, we are talking STRICTLY cholesterol. And it is killing many, many people. The meat/dairy industry is a multi-BILLION dollar industry, and they are working HARD to hide this information from you, paying off whoever they need to, to spin only the positive aspect of meat/dairy (acting as if you CAN’T get these same benefits from other foods), and influencing you to believe that it is a healthy option. THEY ARE BANKING ON YOUR IGNORANCE. Look at what they say about how you need meat/dairy and then look at TRULY non-bias resources such as Harvard Medical. Who are you going to believe? The person who wants your money, or the person who has NOTHING to gain from these studies other than the well-being of fellow man?? Where do you think these diseases are coming from? Why are the numbers constantly on the rise? Do you think people are getting heart disease and cancer from eating too many fruits, veggies and whole grains??? Of course not. Please go ahead and research for yourself.

    Not only that, but the industry is doing very shady shit. Take for instance, just last year. The FDA came out and admitted that farms had been putting ARSENIC (toxic chemical, carcinogenic) into the chicken feed for quite some time. The FDA even admitted that when studies were done with the meat, that the ARSENIC was in the meat that was then being consumed by humans. This article came out last year, but why wasn’t EVERYONE talking about it? But even without the arsenic, meat is killing people. Why do you think when someone gets cancer, the first thing that a GOOD doctor advises is for you to cut meat/dairy from your diet, and to take on a plant-based diet? Because meat/dairy can not only contribute to the cancer growth, but it does NOTHING at all to help fight it. But then the plant diet can not only FIGHT the cancer but CURE it. (Yes, this sounds crazy, but it is 100% truth. Google it.) Plant diets are the answer to longevity and a happy, healthy life as an elder. You may not care about your life in your 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, NOW, but trust me, you will be caring when you’re 50 and your body starts falling apart, and you have to go to the hospital ten times each year. That is NOT the way you want to die. There are MANY people well into their hundreds who are eating a plant-diet and doing so well. It’s remarkable.
    Let’s also talk about weight. Currently in America, 2 out of 3 people are overweight or obese. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s ok for people to make their own health choices, but I also think that our world is being mislead and isn’t being properly educated on nutrition, and it is SAD. No one is going to buy a million dollar ad, telling you that you need more fruits and veggies, because they aren’t being produced by a massive industry, such as meat and dairy. The dairy industry ALONE spends $100 million dollars each year to enforce their product. But no one is going to scream out at you that you’re doing it wrong, as long as there are industries out there reaping the benefits. But even if you do eat meat/dairy, at MAXIMUM, you should only be eating it once a day to maintain proper health.When you eat only fruit/veggies/whole grains/nuts/seed products, you DO NOT have to worry about weight or over-eating, you can eat as much as your heart desires. Even with a "slow metabolism". There is so much fiber in your diet, that it’s almost impossible to put on much fat. But when you eat animals products and processed foods, it is VERY easy to store fat, and very easy to store excess fat.

  12. kaunas888 on April 21, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    Primitive people tends often to be highly affected by obesity and metabolic syndrome, because traditionally they hate a natural wild crafted diet.  When exposed to the modern diet, they have no genetic ability to effectively process it, and they get sick and fat.  Folks who have been in civilization for thousands of years eating grains, are more adapted to eating these foods of civilization.

  13. The Alternative Hypothesis on April 21, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    I don’t think Taubes knew the camera was on him at the beginning.

  14. berri toto on April 21, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    My family and husband family are all skinny they eat noodles bread everyday every meal if no noodles bread there no other food they like

  15. Venkat Ramana Koduri on April 21, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    One of the greatest humans MOTHER NATURE has created.

  16. Paulfo1979 on April 21, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    Owen Wilson is so correct.

  17. TONY COLLYWESTON on April 21, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    We can get fat by taking seriously what Garry Taubes has to say, it is like believing that pigs can fly. This clever man has found a very good way of making money, but it is driving the believers to years of illness and an earlier grave. If you want to avoid both watch PLANT POSITIVE.

  18. Robin Reyes on April 21, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    It’s a shame Dr Chris didn’t get to speak more. I love both these guys but the moderator sucked.

  19. berri toto on April 21, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    Food is no problem the problem is how much you eat. Some people ate chips they don’t think that is food they ate haha

  20. kaunas888 on April 21, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    Even if you are confused about diet, remember to eat whole, unprocessed, natural, healthy food.  Processed, chemically laden, factory, Frankenfood is killing us.

  21. chloe delrio on April 21, 2021 at 5:20 pm


  22. Uday Pasricha on April 21, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    Why so much embarrassment on low carb with high good fat which so many have experienced major weight loss in weeks not years. Gary is a true scientist who does not want to push any agenda, because science will always stay to be a seeker, never a believer, committed to bias.

  23. Anima Libera on April 21, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    If you find it hard to follow Gary Taubes’ information because there is so much information to take in, then check out what Dr. Jason Fung has to say. Dr. Fung is a Canadian nephrologist and a world-leading expert on intermittent fasting and LCHF, especially for treating people with type 2 diabetes. His videos are all over YouTube.

  24. 6374me on April 21, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    The vegetarian looks like he could lose a few pounds

  25. Bob Dole on April 21, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    Why can’t Gary keep his tongue in his mouth?

  26. Jay Tarro on April 21, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    Gary Taubes needs to put down his German history books and newspaper articles from the 1950s and go out into the real world. He should consider taking a trip to Asia and other parts of the world and preach a sermon about the dangers of rice and soy to the lean populations that eat such foods and see what type of reaction he gets.

    He should also visit parts of the U.S. The U.S. is a prime example of a country where poor people have a high rate of obesity and it is a result of consuming excess calories. It is not a mystery that people who are poor become obese. Taubes thinks they become obese while essentially starving and cites a low quality study of Trinidad women in the early 1960s. He blames carbohydrates for supposedly making people obese while they are supposedly starving.

    In this video, he says he fully believes that one apple a day prevented any weight loss in a participant of the DuPont study and that the same person lost tens of pounds of weight easily without the apple. Why does he so readily believe this? Someone who appeals to science should at least be skeptical of such a claim from an old study. If someone said that one teaspoon of fat per day made it impossible for them to lose weight and that they lost tens of pounds of weight in 6 months by removing the teaspoon of fat, would pro-fat Gary Taubes believe that too?

    Go ahead with the NuSI study, Gary. See if the apple or teaspoon of fat claims can be substantiated with actual carefully controlled science experiments. With any luck, the $40 million from billionaire John Arnold to fund NuSI will show it to be true.

    Good science results can come from NuSI studies if they are properly conducted and interpreted by rational scientists. Like the many carefully controlled diet studies that have been done previously by various scientists where energy budget was carefully monitored, the NuSI studies are likely not going to be in line with the far-fetched notions of Taubes.

  27. K Ahd on April 21, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    adding supplements > https://amzn.to/3iIIexX

  28. kbkesq on April 21, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    Why give Taubes, who isn’t a doctor, a stage with medical doctors in any forum? Doctors have to adhere to the Hippocratic oath (first, do no harm) and steer clear of malpractice. Taubes would be sued if he as a doctor prescribed meat and eggs for patients with coronary artery disease.

    Taubes still hasn’t published his cholesterol in beers since he was publicly asked to do so my Mehmet Oz, MD YEARS ago.

  29. berri toto on April 21, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    Dr you don’t need to do research tell you why Chinse is skinny, because if today they ate too much at friends house or party they will not eat tomorrow. Girls are really careful about their body tried very hard to look good

  30. Toni Art on April 21, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    why don’t they start by telling the truth. Spiking insulin all day long is going to cause disease and obesity and sugar and carbs make you hungry. Why would anyone that works for the govt or healthcare or pharmaceutical companies try to make people healthy? there’s big business in disease. It’s sad that we can no longer trust the medical establishment. Forcing everyone to take the flu shot (for money) is another reason for the distrust. We are on to them now. Thank God for the internet. Basic biology is what I go by. Allowing the stores to sell garbage and remove all the nutrients from the "food" is another. Common sense is GONE.

  31. Christina Severino on April 21, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    Solution = Ketosis

  32. Dawn E on April 21, 2021 at 5:35 pm

    When I was a child we moved into an apartment below a woman who had a new born baby. She followed the teachings of a scientist from the 1920 s who believed that baby’s should be like machines and needed exactly 8 oz every 4 hours. We listened to that poor baby cry for 2 out of every 4 hours. My mother tried to explain that babies were not machines. Thankfully this barbaric practice is gone.
    Hopefully the barbaric practice of reciting calories in and calories out will someday go away. It has been proven wrong over and over again, in many studies.
    I once asked a women who looked like a walking skeleton why she did not eat more fat to gain weight. She had tried it for a week at the suggestion of her doctor. She lost 10 pounds. The only way she could stop weight lose was to eat lots of carbs.
    I stayed fat on 1200 low fat, high fiber,whole grain diet. Now I eat high fat, no grain diet and have not only lost weight, but am healthier at almost 60 than I was at 30.

  33. Allan Williams on April 21, 2021 at 5:37 pm

  34. Rami Gilneas on April 21, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    I guess low carb high fat doesnt work for everyone.
    But I can eat 3-4k calories per day and still lose weight and never be hungry. 😉

    When I change my diet without increasing my calory input I gain weight again… maybe I just have a carb intolerance.

  35. Peter Rabbit on April 21, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    The sheer level of confusion in the comment section is exactly why I have excellent job security.

  36. D. J. O'Beirne on April 21, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    My struggle was to WAKE UP & see the results of high carb, low fat (low nutrient) eating….

    I suffered from pre-diabetes + "Male Malaise" …LOW Testosterone, LOW Libido, LOW Energy, LOW Motivation +… HIGH Belly Fat  :-(…. Turned it all around now  :-)….  I help men 35+ do the same  :-)…. See more on my channel & web.   Thanks, Dan

  37. JanineG on April 21, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    Gary Taubes makes such good points here!! Seen this in our own family..Thank you for setting things straight!!

  38. Debra Blouin on April 21, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    Kbkesq…most doctors have little to no nutrition training…the lipid hypothesis had no credible testing…and following the recommendnations it proposed led to an explosion of Type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome and other health impacts. I think Taubes earned his place. Try reading his book Good Calories, Bad Calories and then decide.

  39. A H on April 21, 2021 at 5:44 pm

    Let’s talk plain and simple the reason people get fat is because of FAT that’s your fried fast foods, all thoes sausages etc bread milk organic has less impact on our bodies, a good walk in the day is fine but the main culprit is what I’ve just said, they can beat about the bush organic is always best but more wholegrain crispbreads along with eating magority of veggies, fruits and nuts will get you trim again, forget starving yourself or working out to exsaustion that’s bull it’s all about portion size and what your consuming and believe me you don’t need to spend lots of money or work out hard at the gym or starve , I must make videos to help people💚as there’s too much crap going on

  40. Lorena Smith on April 21, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    I had a personal experience at the age of 26  We relocated to some corporate housing in San Diego where he had a new job but I just quit my old job to go with him and I wasn’t yet working, and we were walking around our new neighborhood.  In my travels I learned there was an arcade near our house where there was some sort of contest to win a prize  There was a big rectangular fish tank full of M & M’s candy and the person who guesses most closely the number of candies in the tank wins the candy. So, my husband spent forty minutes and carefully counted the individual candies in the vertical row, the horizontal, the depth and he calculated it all out to make an educated scientific guess …. and he won  So there was suddenly all this candy in our walk in closet and I filled a bowl and placed it on a coffee table in front of a television set.  After he left for work, I settled in to watch television, and began snacking on the candies.  This went on for three weeks, a few candies here and there, nibbling throughout the day, and I gained so much weight so fast, I couldn’t button my pants!  I learned that the ideal weight gain food is sugar combined with calorie rich cocoa butter. Perhaps I had been previously misled to think the worst food anyone could eat might be bacon grease, but I came to know it is the combination of pairing sugar and fat calories.  I have heard of people slowly and steadily losing weight on a low fat low calorie diet even when they ate sugary yogurt.  I have heard of people losing significant weight on a low carb diet.  I have even heard of people lightly trimming their weight just by cutting out sodas and desserts. I have heard of people losing weight of phentermine fenfluramine.  I have heard of people water fasting and not really losing all that much weight  However, I am convinced the lack of insulin production definitely has something to do with the metabolic process of weight loss, and anabolic steroid abusers have discovered this- they take non prescribed injectable insulin to bulk up in the gym.

  41. Diane Makes on April 21, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    The speaker in the orange shirt probably has a high levels of calcium score. The diet study he did he only talks about weight loss on both groups, but he does not talk about blood markers, insulin levels and inflammation markers.

  42. ashwater skydust on April 21, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    Before watching this (not sure if I will) brown fat is something people should look up. We loose brown fat as we get older.

  43. david gonzalez on April 21, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    Gary I saw your blood work test results. Guy you are acidic and you are on your way to lose kidney function to much for the healthy animal protein.

  44. kaunas888 on April 21, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    One factor that tends to promote obesity but is overlooked is MSG, which promotes weight gain and is addictive.  It is also toxic.

  45. Alexandra on April 21, 2021 at 5:51 pm

    Look up the weston price foundation and all of the questions in this video will be answered.

  46. 1imesub on April 21, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    Grilled meat causes kidney cancer.

  47. Martin Hamilton on April 21, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    Christopher Gardner is on target and gets it yet Gary Taubes on the other hand is very confused. Carbohydrates can’t be grouped into one, they must be split into simple carbs and complex carbs. Whole foods (never had the cell split) like potatoes, beans, corn and rice are ok and should be eaten in abundance without toppings or butter which is fatty acid. Calorie Density relating to fat calories is the other subject that needs to be considered. One slice of butter has as much fat as 5 potatoes. Those 5 potatoes will completely fill a person while it would take 3 sticks of butter. Beef steak is full of fatty acids. Vegetables are bulky and fill the stomach. Recap: Good carbs vs bad carbs and calorie density relating to fatty acid amount.

  48. Just Another Runner on April 21, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    I really don’t understand why other people have such different results then I do. For
    Me. Fat makes me fat. carbs make me thin. When I eat fat I gain weight. Even if I try to cut back on carbs. When ever I cut back in carbs the only thing that happens is I get tired, headaches, lethargy cold and foggy brain. And I gain weight. Even if I increase my fat. Increase fat in diet no matter what, always results in weight gain. I guess my body just doesn’t burn fat well.

  49. Randy Westfahl on April 21, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    I went low carb or "dirty Keto" about 8 months ago. I had experienced three heart attacks, two spinal fusions, four knee surgeries, and was prediabetic. I couldn’t walk 100 yards without resting, was underwater in nine blood markers, and weighed 300lbs. I was dying plain and simple. I had no energy and could barely function. In eight months every single one of these issues have been reversed. My blood markers are normal, no longer prediabetic, no longer taking omeprazole, all meds cut in half, no joint pain, and I can walk all day. I have more energy than any time in the last 20 years. The best part, I’m down 60 pounds and I have new clothes. Keto is the realization that carbs/sugars were killing me. This lifestyle works and it has completely changed my life.

  50. Thomas Baird on April 21, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    Low-fat diets promote overweight and obesity.